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    Does anyone know if you can buy an Electrical Diagnostic Manual for Harleys. I have an 2008 Ultra Classic
    Dale
    Official HERD Member #00145
    Keep The Rubber Side Down

  • #2
    You can definitely get an electrical systems manual, I'm not sure how much diagnostics are in them. Croc or Dave63 will probably know more about what the content is.

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    • #3
      I have an electronic set of manuals for my 09 street glide and there is a section on diagnostics....
      Chris (Steveston)
      Herd # 93
      Retired Navy Vet

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      • #4
        The Diagnostic Manual is 50 meg. and appears to be fairly extensive. What area are you interested in?
        Chris (Steveston)
        Herd # 93
        Retired Navy Vet

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        • #5
          Originally posted by steveston View Post
          The Diagnostic Manual is 50 meg. and appears to be fairly extensive. What area are you interested in?
          I need the section to check why my engine light comes on while operating. there are no codes and it comes on and then goes off, and the service manual tells me to get the electrical diagnostic manual and says see engine light comes on while operating section.
          Dale
          Official HERD Member #00145
          Keep The Rubber Side Down

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          • #6
            Originally posted by o8h0g View Post
            I need the section to check why my engine light comes on while operating. there are no codes and it comes on and then goes off, and the service manual tells me to get the electrical diagnostic manual and says see engine light comes on while operating section.
            CHECKING FOR DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE
            CODES: EFI
            CHECK ENGINE LAMP
            To diagnose system problems, start by observing the behavior
            of the check engine lamp.
            NOTES
            • See Figure 4-5. The ignition switch is turned to IGNITION
            and the engine stop switch is set to RUN (although the
            engine is not running).
            • When the ignition switch is turned to IGNITION, the check
            engine lamp will illuminate for approximately four seconds
            and then turn off.
            • If the check engine lamp is not illuminated while in IGNITION
            position, or if it fails to turn OFF after the initial foursecond
            period, then the speedometer may need to be
            replaced. See 4.5 INITIAL DIAGNOSTIC CHECK: EFI.
            1. See Figure 4-6. When the lamp turns off after being illuminated
            for the first four second period, it will:
            a. Remain off if there are no fault conditions or trouble
            codes currently detected by the ECM.
            b. Come back on for an eight second period if only historic
            codes exist.
            c. Come back on, and remain on, if a current trouble
            code exists.
            2. See 4.4 CHECKING FOR DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE
            CODES: EFI, Code Types for a complete description of
            DTC formats.
            NOTE
            Some DTCs can only be fully diagnosed during actuation. For
            example, a problem with the ignition coil will be considered a
            current fault even after the problem is corrected, since the ECM
            will not know of its resolution until after the coil is exercised by
            vehicle start sequence. In this manner, there may sometimes
            be a false indication of the current trouble code.
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            1. All except FLHR models
            2. All FLHR models (cover shown closed)
            3. All FLHR models (cover shown open)
            Figure 4-5. Ignition Switch:Touring Models
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            2009 Touring Diagnostics: Engine Management 4-9
            ON
            A
            B
            C
            ON
            ON
            OFF
            OFF
            OFF
            Key On
            Key On
            Key On
            Lamp OFF: No Current or Historic DTCs
            Lamp OFF
            Lamp ON 8 Seconds:
            Only Historic DTCs Exist
            Lamp Remains ON: Current DTC*
            * Historic DTCs May Also Exist
            4 Sec.
            4 Sec.
            4 Sec.
            4 Sec.
            8 Sec.
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            Figure 4-6. Check Engine Lamp Operation
            CODE TYPES
            There are two types of DTCs: current and historic. If a DTC is
            stored, it can be read using speedometer self-diagnostics. See
            4.6 SPEEDOMETER SELF-DIAGNOSTICS.
            All DTCs reside in the memory of the ECM, TSM/TSSM/ HFSM,
            speedometer, ABS or tachometer until the DTC is cleared by
            use of the speedometer self-diagnostics. See 4.6 SPEEDOMETER
            SELF-DIAGNOSTICS.
            A historic DTC is also cleared after a total of 50 trips has
            elapsed. A trip consists of a start and run cycle. After the 50
            trip retention period, the DTC is automatically erased from
            memory providing that no subsequent faults of the same type
            are detected in that period.

            Current
            Current DTCs are those which are present during the current
            ignition cycle. See the appropriate flowcharts for solutions.
            Historic
            If a particular problem happens to resolve itself, the active
            status problem is dropped and it becomes a historic code rather
            than a current code.
            Historic codes are stored for a length of time to assist in the
            diagnosis of intermittent faults. See Figure 4-6. The check
            engine lamp will come back on for eight seconds to indicate
            the existence of only historic codes.

            It is important to note that historic codes may also be present
            whenever the system indicates the existence of a current code.
            See 4.4 CHECKING FOR DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES:
            EFI, Multiple Diagnostic Trouble Codes if multiple DTCs are
            found.
            Diagnostic charts are designed for use with current DTCs and
            as a result they frequently suggest part replacement. When
            diagnosing a historic code the charts can be helpful, but should
            not lead to part replacement without verification that a suspected
            component/part is faulty.
            RETRIEVING DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE
            CODES
            PART NUMBER TOOL NAME
            HD-48650 DIGITAL TECHNICIAN II
            The engine management system provides two levels of diagnostics.
            • The most sophisticated mode employs a computer-based
            diagnostic package called DIGITAL TECHNICIAN II (Part
            No. HD-48650).
            • The second mode requires using the speedometer selfdiagnostics.
            Speedometer, ABS (if equipped), tachometer
            (if equipped), TSM/TSSM/HFSM and ECM DTCs can be
            accessed and cleared. See 4.6 SPEEDOMETER SELFDIAGNOSTICS.
            MULTIPLE DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES
            While it is possible for more than one fault to occur and set
            more than one trouble code, there are several conditions which
            may result in one fault setting multiple trouble codes:
            • The TMAP sensor, TGS, jiffy stand sensor and VSS are
            connected to the same reference line (+5 V Vref). If the
            reference line goes to ground or open, multiple codes can
            be set.
            • Serial data codes (DTC U1300, U1301, U1016, U1064,
            and U1097) may be accompanied by other codes. Always
            correct the serial data codes first.
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            Last edited by steveston; 09-26-2010, 10:58 AM.
            Chris (Steveston)
            Herd # 93
            Retired Navy Vet

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            • #7
              Originally posted by o8h0g View Post
              I need the section to check why my engine light comes on while operating. there are no codes and it comes on and then goes off, and the service manual tells me to get the electrical diagnostic manual and says see engine light comes on while operating section.
              Hope my previous info is of assistance... Pay attention to "Historic Faults"... (Not a Big Deal)...so do not worry!!
              Chris (Steveston)
              Herd # 93
              Retired Navy Vet

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              • #8
                Thanks alot. I am gonna look at it tonight.
                Dale
                Official HERD Member #00145
                Keep The Rubber Side Down

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