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    If the SOB in the WH declares martial law and tries to confiscate firearms, Civil unrest will occur for sure!! The Dems/libs know their azzes are beat to a pulp in November and they will do anything to retain control of the Congress!! Our Country......Our Government..........Lock-n-load!!!
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    • #3
      Originally posted by BrianS View Post
      If the SOB in the WH declares martial law and tries to confiscate firearms, Civil unrest will occur for sure!! The Dems/libs know their azzes are beat to a pulp in November and they will do anything to retain control of the Congress!! Our Country......Our Government..........Lock-n-load!!!
      I agree 100% brother!
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      • #4
        Just the assertion that something so tyrranical could be in the works boils my blood. These acorn jagoffs are in the process of declaring civil war, in my opinion. They are anti American and 50 years ago would be tried for treason as commies. we had good reason to fear commuinisim, why don't we have those commie witch hunts anymore
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        • #5
          remember when rumors were floating around about GW instituting martial law nearing the end of his term? i didnt give it much thought then.....but now!! ohboy has gone too far in alot of policy making and seems to go against the grain and public opinion on every decision. he is now putting a legal team together to sue Arizona on that states immigration laws. i wouldnt put it past this anti american oreo to order US troops to fire on their own
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          • #6
            sad thing is, when my brother was in the Army, they were flat out asked if they would have a problem firing upon American citizens if ordered to do so
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            • #7
              Originally posted by toorglide View Post
              remember when rumors were floating around about GW instituting martial law nearing the end of his term? i didnt give it much thought then.....but now!! ohboy has gone too far in alot of policy making and seems to go against the grain and public opinion on every decision. he is now putting a legal team together to sue Arizona on that states immigration laws. i wouldnt put it past this anti american oreo to order US troops to fire on their own
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              • #8
                This guy really doesn't give a rats ass about the constitution....
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                • #9
                  That is the problem in in white house isnt the one pointing the rifle at the people he is suposed to represent he has other people to do that for him. He is to much of a chicken s**t to do it him self
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JimP View Post
                    This guy really doesn't give a rats ass about the constitution....
                    No they consider the Constitution "outdated" Theres even a book now it's the constitution but with a friggen disclaimer tell yur kids "take this document with a grain of salt"
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                    • #11
                      Grain of salt ain't the "grain" that comes to mind when I think of the Oreo administration. Sorry toor, I couldn't resist stealing that one!
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                      • #12
                        I thought it was illegal for U.S. troops to operate within the continental U.S.

                        I found the following at this site.
                        In an online interview with reporters earlier this month, NorthCom officers were asked about the implications of the new deployment for the Posse Comitatus Act, the 230-year-old legal statute that bars the use of US military forces for law enforcement purposes within the US itself.

                        Col. Lou Volger, NorthCom’s chief of future operations, tried to downplay any enforcement role, but added, "We will integrate with law enforcement to understand the situation and make sure we’re aware of any threats."

                        Volger acknowledged the obvious, that the Brigade Combat Team is a military force, while attempting to dismiss the likelihood that it would play any military role. It "has forces for security," he said, "but that’s really—they call them security forces, but that’s really just to establish our own footprint and make sure that we can operate and run our own bases."

                        Lt. Col. James Shores, another NorthCom officer, chimed in, "Let’s say even if there was a scenario that developed into a branch of a civil disturbance—even at that point it would take a presidential directive to even get it close to anything that you’re suggesting."
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                        • #13
                          Also, from Wikipedia

                          The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Navy, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

                          The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
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                          • #14
                            Look close Obamba aint paid much attention to the laws of the country yet(constitution). and the Commie congress has been all for it.
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                            • #15
                              It talks about them being called into Federal service. What about when troops like the National Guard are called into state service? Kent State just over 40 years ago comes to mind. Is that still legal, or was it ever?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by WideOpen View Post
                                It talks about them being called into Federal service. What about when troops like the National Guard are called into state service? Kent State just over 40 years ago comes to mind. Is that still legal, or was it ever?
                                From the Wikipedia entry:

                                There are a number of situations in which the Act does not apply. These include:

                                * National Guard units while under the authority of the governor of a state;
                                * Troops used under the order of the President of the United States pursuant to the Insurrection Act, as was the case during the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.
                                * Under 18 U.S.C. 831, the Attorney General may request that the Secretary of Defense provide emergency assistance if civilian law enforcement is inadequate to address certain types of threats involving the release of nuclear materials, such as potential use of a nuclear or radiological weapon. Such assistance may be by any personnel under the authority of the Department of Defense, provided such assistance does not adversely affect U.S. military preparedness.
                                * Support roles under the Joint Special Operations Command
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by WideOpen View Post
                                  It talks about them being called into Federal service. What about when troops like the National Guard are called into state service? Kent State just over 40 years ago comes to mind. Is that still legal, or was it ever?
                                  Had Kent state in mind also. Haven't forgotten that either...
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                                  • #18
                                    That was the Guard being called in by Governor Rhoades.

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                                    • #19
                                      Rhoades and then president Nixon were both Republican. Doesn't matter who's on the white house, they all screw with the laws to fit their whims. Obama isn't much worse than any other. They all sucked. IMO.
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                                      • #20
                                        National Guard units fall under the jurisdiction of the governor of the state they reside in and it's actually a potentially impeachable offense for a president to deploy a national guard unit on American soil. If Bush had mobilized the NG during catrina, he would have been yanked out in front of the House of Representatives for impeachement hearings before the ink on the paperwork had even dried. That's why he was asking the governers to do it and was taking heat for not deploying troops. Libs are stupid and have no respect for the law.
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